A note to all - Lloyd

The Best Overall App was the least innovative among the notable submissions! What more could you expect from this competition? Are you looking for the definition of a web app? Do you really think they cared about it? The main criteria were completely overlooked.

Overall, it was a total waste of time.

Can’t win if you don’t play! I’ll have a new strategy next time :slight_smile:

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You’re absolutely right! But winning a competition is meaningful only when it’s truly deserved. Beyond the prize and a bit of recognition, what else does it bring? It can be misleading for people when the winners don’t reflect true merit.

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I would like to know my vote counts. I hope you can reveal this now that the results have been announced.

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In my view, winners were chosen on merit. I voted for most of the winning apps with a few exceptions. I have no issue with winners. However, what criteria they told was wrong. They chose a pattern that is common when selecting an app for funding. They gave the impression that it was a competition, you win a prize and go home. However, while choosing winners, they think about investment, quick return, and business plans. Then they need to tell the competitors to write business plan in the submission form and other things that are common when you apply for startup funding. Maybe they contacted other people also and told them about the agreement and people rejected their offer. That’s why they gave only 3 days for winners to accept. I was sure that the car would remain in the USA from the beginning. Who will transport such a nice car to another country? They need to mention those things in the description of the competition. Whatever, people do not need to be disappointed. It is common in startup culture. If you think, your app is good, release it and go for other funding programs. There are a lot.

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@WasimSafdar
I’m sorry, but I have to disagree. Most of the competition criteria were subjective—what’s considered useful, creative, or impactful can vary greatly from person to person. However, the competition also included objective factors, such as originality, technical feasibility, and whether the idea already existed. These are easily verifiable.

For example, if someone created a chatbot application similar to ChatGPT Canvas, you’d immediately question its merit if it won, asking, “What’s the advantage of this application?” And you’d be right! The same situation happened to me, which is why I believe the competition wasn’t judged on merit.

I’m sorry to say this, but it doesn’t matter what other participants voted for, because participants are not necessarily experts in this domain. That’s precisely why we had judges and why the only prize for the People’s Choice award was a trophy. So please don’t take that direction. Facts remain facts—whether true or false—regardless of how many people vote for the opposite.

The reality is that anyone could create a similar application and demo to the winning submission using existing GitHub repositories without writing a single line of code! This is FACT.

I am saying the same. They did not follow the criteria but looked at other business factors. However, I also think that winners ideas were not so bad or out of merit. I only do not like the AR app because it is so simple. With AR, you can do a lot of amazing things. I am also disappointed because they did not test most of the applications. However, I am still okay because there were only 10 prizes. Atleast this competition helped me to complete my idea. Otherwise, maybe my idea remained in my notebook. In the end, whatever we think we can do nothing now.

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Honestly, this competition is getting weirder as it progresses!

It feels like this competition exists in a parallel world—a world where programmers, since 2008 when Iron Man introduced the concept of Jarvis to the public, have just been waiting until 2024 for the Gemini competition to bring Jarvis to life. A world where GitHub doesn’t exist, researchers are nowhere to be found, and no one writes code.

Are you kidding me? Seriously??

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@WasimSafdar
No one should be allowed to waste our time or sacrifice our efforts for the sake of a marketing strategy.

Brother, take a look at your submission. Regardless of other factors, how many similar apps can you find available out there? If you find none, it means your app idea is original and not a copy of something else.

Now, compare that to the winner of the “Best Overall App.” There are numerous superior alternatives with the same idea and functionalities already available.
If we add another factor, like the number of superior available alternatives to the competition, the winner would truly deserve the title!

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I’ll tell you how they chose the winners, they said: we have to choose apps mostly from the USA, but if they are nonsense, an app from Germany (this nonsense app that won flutter and most useful…), another from Japan, etc. We must never look at an app that comes from Asia (Countries of South), Africa, Arab or South America (even if it is the best of the best). So the first criterion is to filter by country, then we try to select from this nonsense, something even if we have to repeat the same apps. Then we put what we want for the people’s choice app.

I’ve never seen these apps that won during voting to even think about voting or not. That’s why there’s no transparency in the votes. I’m sure the real people’s choice is from another country, but because they know from the start that they have no control over it, they made this mediocre voting system where you can’t see anything.
A competition of shame, stigmatization, bias of kids… the shame of Google, simply. Now 3 days have passed, no one is really interested in watching these videos of the winning apps or discovering what it’s about except maybe the first one because it appears a lot on Google’s pages (but only few people “always the same people category” say great work etc who can also say great work about any app…).

There’s no real enthusiasm as if these apps are something original, impactful, useful… or “changing the world”: Changing the world, really? are they joking: they can’t even change someone’s mind to convince them to continue watching the video about these apps… …it’s nonsense and if Google ventures to invest in these crappy apps, no one will use them like many other products… competition and winners of shame !

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If you think your idea is good then the best way is to test it on the market. Release it and maybe its value will be more than the prize. In my view, your time is not wasted. Google is a corporate company and they looked where it is easy to do business. The prize was not small, even university professors and researchers are looking for far less amount for their projects. For example, JAYU is selected because it is made by university researcher. Google can get lot of benefits and can invest more.

something else: those who judged are superficial people. That’s why Google really needs to carefully choose its employees or at least those who judge the competitions. Giving this to someone who knows nothing about life, the world’s issues, and only knows what’s happening in their own corner is what made these results a disaster and a total failure. It didn’t generate any enthusiasm because they reflect the people who chose them: narrow-minded, knowing only what’s happening in their four corners. That’s the big problem: the people Google entrusted with this competition are superficial, without values, people who see the merit of others not in their work or what they’ve done. This is clearly reflected in these results: bland, tasteless, and meaningless. I repeat, a competition and winners of shame @Lloyd_Hightower

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The latest competition about Gemini (Google Chrome Built-in AI Challenge) is hosted on Devpost, which bans some Asian countries and countries associated with Russia. That doesn’t seem like a coincidence. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

@zennn.mind In this competition the issue is bigger: it’s not about Russia (Russia and Ukraine: both cannot participate in the Gemini API competition). The problem is bigger, I explained it well in my previous responses: A note to all - Lloyd - #113 by Rosa_20 and A note to all - Lloyd - #115 by Rosa_20

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Yes, I did the analysis too. You can see my comments in another posts:

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@zennn.mind Yes, maybe it’s true in the competition you mentioned, but not here. but anyway, in just two months everything will change in the world. They have no interest in mixing politics here because in two months, in 24 hours, they might regret it… regret it a lot

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@zennn.mind also what you mentioned is a crucial point, even specific to that competition you talked about but I simply associate it with superficial people. Only someone without personality, and values can see the value of people not in their merit and their work, but in their country of origin or nationality. Whatever the situation, as long as they have allowed people from this country to participate, they must treat them equally, because yes, they are. If they don’t know that, they need to learn it, because they won’t go far in life with such a mindset, they will tire themselves out with it: in life and work even Google itself, (Politicians change, the opinions of the same politicians change, the world changes, Only people and organizations without values will be remembered by as such…) and it will only tarnish Google’s image…
Anyway, it is clearly reflected in the results of this competition: bland, tasteless, and meaningless: competition of shame!
@Lloyd_Hightower : next time, this for Google, when you put a certain Konzelmann(…) in the team of judges, put someone (just random names but I mean them): like: El-Sayed (Arab), Khan (Pakistani), Singh (Indian), João (South America), Nkrumah (African), etc…I said that as a general idea, but I mean an inclusive and not biased , but not only they sould be non-superficial people…

@Lloyd_Hightower Now the competition is over. Some are happy and some are not. No regrets, I developed my app to help people and I gained a lot of experience from it. I will continue my work. I just need one favor. I had an old Google laptop bag and a T-shirt that I got from one of Google’s conference in Denmark. The T-shirt is no more but the bag saves my laptop a lot. Can you send those to me again so that I have a new one? I love Google souvenirs. If it is possible, also to other participants. It is an odd place to say this but it is just a request. Google has an office in Pakistan too.

@Lloyd_Hightower
Thank you for sharing such a heartfelt and reflective message with us! The Gemini API Developer Competition has been an incredible journey, and your dedication to making it a success shines through. It’s awe-inspiring to hear about the 3k+ submissions and over 400 hours of videos reviewed—what an amazing accomplishment for everyone involved.

As a participant, I’m deeply grateful for the opportunity to showcase my project. This competition has been a great platform to learn, grow, and connect with a community of talented developers. I truly appreciate the effort you and the team have put into recognizing and evaluating each submission thoughtfully.

A huge congratulations to all the winners!

They didn’t evaluate over 3,000 submissions, nor did they watch 400 hours of content. They knew which submission would win even before the competition began.

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