Currently there are the following sections: Gemini API, Google AI studio, Site feedback, Community, Documentation. I think it would be useful to add a section on Gemini (not API) to discuss it’s limitations, use cases, ecc. Can someone with the right privileges do it?
Thanks Nicolo for the feedback. Is this category for model specific discussions?
I am thinking about a section where people can have discussions about Gemini’s limitations, problems they are facing, or even nice use cases they want to share… Within this section, it would be nice to be able to tag the post with the specific model(s) it’s about.
In my case, I want to start a topic on Gemini Pro’s and Ultra’s limitations with Mathematics and what problems need to be addressed to close the gap with ChatGPT. In this case, the API and the web versions have different behaviours (for example because they differ in the way they format the output) so a different section from “Gemini API” would be needed.
I’ll suggest renaming the Gemini API category to just “Gemini” to allow questions and conversations concerning both API & non-API use cases.
The Community can serve as a “catch all” for anything that doesn’t fit within the other categories
This would work, or if you want it more organized you could make just a Gemini category.
Yeah, though I would recommend for the description to be changed to be more inclusive for other topics.
I would like to provide feedback on the current user interface design of Google AI Studio. While the dark theme is aesthetically pleasing, prolonged use can cause eye strain and discomfort for some users, including myself.
Therefore, I kindly request that the Google AI Studio team consider implementing the option for a light theme. This could include options such as:
1.Classic Light Theme: Featuring a white or light grey background with dark text for a clear and readable interface.
2.Custom Themes: Allowing users to personalize the interface with their preferred colors and fonts.
I believe that incorporating a light theme option would not only improve user experience and protect users’ eye health but also cater to diverse user preferences, making Google AI Studio a more inclusive and user-friendly platform.
Fair point, I’m a little worried about creating too many categories that overlap though. I think it’s better to just have slightly broader categories.
So if we’re going for a more organized approach, I’d rather we make a “Gemini” category, and then rename Gemini API to just “API”, which would also include questions related to vertex
This seems like the best course of action as Vertex AI is a big portion of Gemini use, especially in countries outside of the US.
Fully agree here, I think that makes sense, but I’ll leave the decision to my superior’s, as I trust they have more information about the actual usage than I do
@GE_DI you’ve already written a post about it over here:
And the various bug’s that are currently present are reported here:
I know our lovely admins are working their butt’s off trying to provide us with the best possible experience, have patience, things will be improved, but you don’t need to chase them around on the forum to ensure that your voice is heard
All good points above. Anyway I think it would be useful to be able to filter for only posts about Gemini’s web version (i.e. excluding API). If the web version evolves into something more customisable (like OpenAI’s GPTs) I would assume there would be many people just interested in reading posts about the web version (for example to understand how to improve their GPTs). Bundling everything together may cause these users to overlook some posts just because they are overcrowded by the API posts. This is just a consideration based on my experience with OpenAI’s forum.
To categorize topics, you can use tags. By clicking on a tag, you can view all the topics that have this particular tag. As TL-3 users, we have the ability to add tags to topics that are not labeled correctly manually. This helps to ensure that all topics are properly categorized.
From experience on the community discord (which has a “gemini” and “gemini-api” channel):
- People will post about the Gemini chat app in gemini-api
- People will post about AI Studio (the UI) in gemini
- People will post about the API (either the AI Studio API or Vertex AI API) in gemini-api
I agree that there needs to be a division, especially as we get Gemini Code Complete which blurs the lines even further…
… but people who come in with a quesiton aren’t going to care.
That is so true “We generally discuss AI Studio and the Gemini API in #gemini-api”
Yep this is part of the reason I’m advocating for having very broad categories, but it’s 100% true that many people will post in the wrong category
Are you one of the people managing the community discord, or are you speaking from a user perspective?
Discord and Discourse are a bit different, and managing the latter is much easier as the community grows
Interesting, they removed the Discord entirely, this seems like a interesting move for Google .
Pretty sure not, I believe they do consulting for something.
This is a good move!
Discord have 3 main issues that makes it slog to manage:
- Moderation: user’s on discord have very little recourse against problematic content, and relies heavily on the presence of moderators to solve this.
- Channels: a channel on discord functions like a “topic” here on discourse, except that user’s on discord can’t make their own channels, and the categories can’t have more than 50 channels.
- Discord is un-searchable: this one is self explanatory, but the end result is that the same questions will be asked & answered over and over again.
In comparison, discourse use’s a flagging system that lets everyone take action against problematic content while preventing abuse. Any user can create their own topic here, and these can be split, merged or moved by moderators if needs be. Discourse is also searchable and SEO optimized, making it so people can actually find related problems or answers
it’s 100% true that many people will post in the wrong category
Which I don’t particularly care about - I just don’t want people to think that people will somehow self-moderate just because we have the categories. It means that moderators will have more work to do - not less.
I know the two environments are different when it comes to management. And probably the users that will join each.
Are you one of the people managing the community discord, or are you speaking from a user perspective?
User - but one that tends to answer most of the questions in those two channels. (And was probably seen as an annoying pest as I asked people to use the right one.)
they removed the Discord entirely, this seems like a interesting move for Google
But hardly a surprise. The Discord server was very much more a community run server that is supposed to broadly serve most of Google’s communities - more connecting people with common interests. It was very very poorly suited for product support.
This is more closely connected to the team and much more intended as a support channel.
- Discord is un-searchable: this one is self explanatory, but the end result is that the same questions will be asked & answered over and over again.
Discord is searchable. But nobody bothers to do so since it is easier to just ask.
And I suspect we’ll see the same questions here asked and answered over and over as well. {: But that’s the nature of online forums as well, no matter how well intentioned.
People themselves won’t self moderate, but the community as a whole will. I have extensive moderation experience from being an admin and moderator on both platforms, and I can tell you that channel management on a larger discord server is a pain in the a**, managing a discourse is a much more pleasant experience, and the workload is far lower, even if there’s 10x the amount of people present.
Discord is very poorly suited for anything that isn’t a small group of people who needs a space to chat, discourse is also for building communities and connecting people with common interests, just on a much larger scale, product support is just a side effect of having a knowledgeable users
It’s not, you misunderstand what I’m trying to say, I’m saying content on discord isn’t accessible from a web search, try making a google search for “how can I fine-tune using my own forum data?” and you’ll understand what I mean
Forums are top tier, and I will die on that hill